Program: 15 minutes first knead 1:10 first rise 20 minutes second knead 30 minutes second rise At the end of the cycle, the machine punches down the dough, and then, you take it out, and shape it, put it on a pan, (or in a square pan if you just cant give up the square shape), whatever you like, and let it rise for about an hour, or until it doubles in size. Then, make your decorative insisions, (That will make it look like those beautiful loaves from the local baker) and bake it at 400 deg. for 30-35 minutes, or until the crust is a golden brown. The greatest part is, never again do you have to deal with a collapsed loaf!! Why? Simply because if your loaf collapses, then reshape it, and let it rise again. No matter what, youll get decent bread out. The programmable dough makers definitely are the next generation of bread machines. Theyll take off simply because theyll satisfy bread purists, and heck, theyre much cheaper than the full blown bread machines. But in the meantime, as far as recipes are concerned, its still the pioneering age for these things. From: Bread-Bakers Archives: ftp.best.com/pub/reggie/archives/bread/recipe