1. Season meat with Tony’s or seasoning mixture (lightly). 2. In a large aluminum stock pot fill ½ full with water. Add seasoning to water mildly to moderately. 3. Using 2 tbs of oil fry chopped okra for about 10 minutes, stirring occasionally to keep from burning. Add to water in stock pot. 4. Add roux until it is a thick consistency; but, not too thick. To make homemade roux use 2 c oil and 2 c flour mixed together, cook in black iron pot on medium low, stirring constantly until it comes to a chocolate caramel brown color. 5. Add seasoned chicken, Worcestershire sauce, chopped onion, celery, bell pepper, garlic powder, green onions and filé (2tbs) to water. 6. Simmer 2 or 3 hours (hen) or until meat is tender (if using chicken simmer 1 ½ -2 hours). 7. Skim off excess fat (oil) and serve in large soup bowls with white rice. Aslo, serve as a side item, potato salad and bread.